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Post by heliofaguy on Aug 5, 2012 7:31:12 GMT -4
This is how I have my 600E setup. I have the Throttle Cut setting on the TX to a -10% with the TH switch. That allows me to check Pitch and flight controls without the motor spinning up. The Throttle End Points are 110% 100%. The ESC needed that 10% added to the low end point to arm.
I'm guessing the programmed travel of the throttle channel was not in the range the ESC liked until I set the low end point 110%. That is also set into the Throttle Cut Setting with the TH switch.
Now onto my next challenge, the Gyro and tail rotor settings.
I'm getting close to trying this big bird out for the first time. ;D
Thanks for everyone's help.
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Post by heliofaguy on Aug 8, 2012 12:04:12 GMT -4
I programmed the Gyro, and double-checked the head assembly and checked for any CCPM interaction and am noticing things aren't right, yet. I watched Finless Bob's videos again on CCPM Setup #1 and 2 and I forgot to do a couple of things. I need to redo the CCPM setup at pitch mid-stick and reset the servos to 90%, etc.
I noticed the Align DS610 cyclic servos are buzzing alot. When I move the sticks around they will eventually settle down. The control surfaces are quite bind free, so I don't know what this is about. I bought these servos used from a guy off HeliFreak classified that said they only had 7 flights on them. The DS620 tail servo doesn't want to always center like it should. The tail assembly is smooth and bind free. I'm using a CC 40amp BEC set to 6V for the electronics. All these servos are rated for 6V. Am I burning these servos out with all this buzzing?
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Post by markt on Aug 8, 2012 12:38:50 GMT -4
Perfectly normal for digital servos to buzz, some do it more than others and the 610/620 are at the more noisy end of the scale.
When you say the tail servo doesn't want to center, are you testing it with the gyro in rate mode? In heading-hold mode it will not center as it is trying to move the heli.
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Post by heliofaguy on Aug 8, 2012 12:54:47 GMT -4
This gyro is defaulting to HH, so that's likely the reason it's not centering. This servo is lightening fast! Thanx for the info.
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Post by markt on Aug 8, 2012 16:04:41 GMT -4
Best get your radio set up to change between HH and rate mode, if you encounter problems just post questions and I'll be happy to help.
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Post by heliofaguy on Aug 8, 2012 16:35:28 GMT -4
This Gyro is the GT9 that comes with the 600E. Isn't this gyro work based on Percentage where anything above 50% Gain is HH, anything below is Rate Mode?
If so don't I just set the normal Gear switch on the DX8 to anything above 50% if I want Normal to be HH, and the other switch setting to be for Rate or is it more complicated than that? Thanx for the help.
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Post by markt on Aug 8, 2012 16:53:10 GMT -4
Sounds right if I remember the GT9 correctly. Gyro menu on the DX8 is pretty easy to follow.
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Post by heliofaguy on Aug 13, 2012 9:29:30 GMT -4
Last week, Thursday night, I was moving my PhoenixTech ESC to a different part of the airframe. I wanted to put it where it would get better airflow. I had the main rotor pulled out with the motor still mounted. I connected the motor to the ESC to do a test spin up to make certain it would spin the correct way before reinstalling the main rotor shaft and main gear and I was planning to mark the wires to make certain I plug them into the same leads again. The motor seemed to stall before wanting to spin up. The ESC promptly blew a capacitor, spewing something out the battery leads end of the ESC. Friday morning I reported it to RC Aerodyne's contact me and 30 minutes after they read my note Friday morning, they had a new ESC packaged up and mailed out to me. CS at RC Aerodyne is top notch in my experience. I should get it today or tomorrow in the mail. Thanx guys. You're awesome.
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Post by Dr. Evil on Aug 13, 2012 9:56:20 GMT -4
Last week, Thursday night, I was moving my PhoenixTech ESC to a different part of the airframe. I wanted to put it where it would get better airflow. I had the main rotor pulled out with the motor still mounted. I connected the motor to the ESC to do a test spin up to make certain it would spin the correct way before reinstalling the main rotor shaft and main gear and I was planning to mark the wires to make certain I plug them into the same leads again. The motor seemed to stall before wanting to spin up. The ESC promptly blew a capacitor, spewing something out the battery leads end of the ESC. Friday morning I reported it to RC Aerodyne's contact me and 30 minutes after they read my note Friday morning, they had a new ESC packaged up and mailed out to me. CS at RC Aerodyne is top notch in my experience. I should get it today or tomorrow in the mail. Thanx guys. You're awesome. Glad they were able to help. RCA's customer service is top notch and always will be. At times ppl get upset b/c they are sometimes hard to get a hold of but that is why this forum exist.
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Post by heliofaguy on Aug 26, 2012 12:58:55 GMT -4
Well I maidened my 600E last week. It flew beautifully, but I didn't do too well landing it. I laid out a piece of plywood out on the lawn so the tail rotor wasn't mowing grass. It took off just beautifully. The wind was a bit gusty, but not too bad. I tried to land it back on the plywood, but I missed. It tipped over and I put the mains into the ground. The also got the tail boom. The main carbon-fiber blades were toast as well as the fly-bar. The tail boom broke off at the boom housing. I later discovered the main shaft was also bent. I ordered the replacement parts and put it all back together. I spooled it up last night on the workbench without the main blades in it and it had quite a pronounced high-pitched vibration to it. The main gear had a small wobble in it that I discovered was caused by the one-way Bearing. Apparantly the OWB took a hit when the blades hit the ground. More parts are on the way. We build 'em, we fly 'em, we crash 'em. Isn't that the way this hobby goes? I'll be more careful next time. It's interesting though, I'm doing very well on the Sim. I can handle, very well, the spirited trex-600 on my Phoenix flight sim. I have everything turned up to 100% so it's more of a handful than it comes by default. But when I saw my own creation lift off for the first time, I was in awe of how smooth and beautiful it looked in the air. I then realized I have to control this thing and woke up and sort of panicked. The emotional aspects of this hobby are very interesting. I've flown many planes throughout my hobby years, but these helis are just a totally different thing altogether. What an awesome hobby! I'm totally hooked.
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Post by Dr. Evil on Aug 26, 2012 17:37:28 GMT -4
Well I maidened my 600E last week. It flew beautifully, but I didn't do too well landing it. I laid out a piece of plywood out on the lawn so the tail rotor wasn't mowing grass. It took off just beautifully. The wind was a bit gusty, but not too bad. I tried to land it back on the plywood, but I missed. It tipped over and I put the mains into the ground. The also got the tail boom. The main carbon-fiber blades were toast as well as the fly-bar. The tail boom broke off at the boom housing. I later discovered the main shaft was also bent. I ordered the replacement parts and put it all back together. I spooled it up last night on the workbench without the main blades in it and it had quite a pronounced high-pitched vibration to it. The main gear had a small wobble in it that I discovered was caused by the one-way Bearing. Apparantly the OWB took a hit when the blades hit the ground. More parts are on the way. We build 'em, we fly 'em, we crash 'em. Isn't that the way this hobby goes? I'll be more careful next time. It's interesting though, I'm doing very well on the Sim. I can handle, very well, the spirited trex-600 on my Phoenix flight sim. I have everything turned up to 100% so it's more of a handful than it comes by default. But when I saw my own creation lift off for the first time, I was in awe of how smooth and beautiful it looked in the air. I then realized I have to control this thing and woke up and sort of panicked. The emotional aspects of this hobby are very interesting. I've flown many planes throughout my hobby years, but these helis are just a totally different thing altogether. What an awesome hobby! I'm totally hooked. Well I am glad you're enjoying the hell out of your 600 and sorry to hear about the mishap but yep...all part of the deal. I think its the challenge that keeps us hooked to this hobby, if it was easy it wouldn't be any fun. Like a plane, I can say I 've experienced it now and yes...its fun but unlike a heli...constant inputs is needed to keep it in the air. As of today, I can say this...flying a full scale Robinson 22 is an amazing experience that any one that is into this hobby need to try atleast once. My wife has given me a 2 hour heli flying lesson at a nearby airport as a Christmas gift this past year. Everyone should check it out but the point I was trying to make is that YES a heli is alot more fun. Even my instructor said the very same thing and he is getting ready to get his commercial airplane license.
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Post by heliofaguy on Aug 26, 2012 18:15:11 GMT -4
Oh, yea, flying a real one would be a total gas. Even riding in one which happens to be in my bucket list. Did you get a chance to go to IRCHA this year? I heard it was amazing as always. I guess the Nitros are still quite popular. I wanted to go, but we had a family reunion that same weekend. I'll just try to schedule around it for next year.
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Post by Dr. Evil on Aug 26, 2012 18:24:08 GMT -4
Oh, yea, flying a real one would be a total gas. Even riding in one which happens to be in my bucket list. Did you get a chance to go to IRCHA this year? I heard it was amazing as always. I guess the Nitros are still quite popular. I wanted to go, but we had a family reunion that same weekend. I'll just try to schedule around it for next year. Na...no IRCHA for me, I couldn't swing it either but very excited to go to Dalton in a few weeks thou. It's an all scale heli event in GA. You should check it out if schedule allows. RCA will be there in full force.
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Post by heliofaguy on Aug 26, 2012 20:12:40 GMT -4
Dalton for a scale event. That would be amazing as well. GA is too far for me to go living in Michigan. IRCHA was less than 4 hours away, and I probably would have gone if I didn't have a family commitment. Please bring back some pictures and videos. Sounds like a perfect venue for RCA to show off it's offerings.
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Post by heliofaguy on Sept 2, 2012 17:35:00 GMT -4
I successfully flew my 600E last night. It flew great. Rock Solid. It was kinda muggy and I was sweating buckets with my heart pounding in my throat while anticipating lift-off. It lifted off without any surprises, and hovered beautifully. Now that I know it's stable, it takes much of the fear factor out of flying it. ;D I'm pretty pumped and can't wait to fly it again. It's a bit windy today, so I'm gonna wait for the wind to calm down a bit before trying it again. I'm totally hooked.
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