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Post by chipwich on Mar 24, 2012 16:45:27 GMT -4
The old manual "Chaoshelicopter600ESP-ESPElite.pdf" and Align manuals show the two aileron link balls on the short arms facing outward and the one on the long arm inward. However, on page H-13 of the new manual "Chaos600Manual2011.pdf", all three link balls are clearly shown as being oriented inward. Does anyone know the correct position for these? Thanks.
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Post by Chris Reibert on Mar 24, 2012 16:53:45 GMT -4
I am not completely sure either. That was actually a question I had once my electronics arrive. I was comparing different peoples Chaos 600 pictures. I am sure there are Plenty of people one here to answer your question
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Post by chipwich on Mar 24, 2012 17:06:18 GMT -4
Thanks crmodels. Every picture that I can find shows them oriented the way that you have them, making it the safe way to continue, but I wonder the new manual shows them differently. Working on other parts today and hope there is an answer soon. Great video by the way.
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Post by James V on Mar 24, 2012 21:26:26 GMT -4
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Post by bobsp12 on Mar 25, 2012 0:49:41 GMT -4
chipwich...the ball orientation depends on which bellcrank system your kit has. There are two distinct systems. The first was the same as the Align 600E...the early 600 and the early Chaos 600. That has the bellcrank as a t-shape, with the three balls on the inside...it was originally for the servos having the servo wheel at the top of the servo. That can have some shortcomings as the servo wheel can rub on the cockpit. It seems that RCA are showing that system on it's current instructions using it with the servo wheels at the bottom of the servo's. This stops the canopy rubbing.
The second is the later version...the same as the Align 600ESP, that has an offset bellcrank, uses the servo wheels at the bottom of the servo and has two balls outwards and one inwards.
Use the orientation that suits your bellcrank...you will either have a bellcrank that is a t shape or one that has the longer arm offset. If you look closely at both sets of instructions, you will see the difference. The only difference between the two systems when they have the servo wheels mounted at the bottom of the servo is that using the offset bellcrank, the servo links, bellcrank and servo wheel form a rectangle when the servo is at zero pitch setting and using the t-shape bellcrank, a parallelogram is formed at zero pitch. Personally, the offset bellcrank makes more sense to me as it optimises the torque of the servo, but both systems seem to work ok.
I was under the impression that all the Chaos 600's had gone to the ESP type with offset bellcranks...but I could be wrong.
Just figure out which bellcrank you have and use the appropriate method..
JamesV....the thread you have mentioned shows both systems....your pic at the end is using the offset bellcrank and the earlier pics show the t-shaped bellcrank....note that the servo wheel will have the links in different positions for both systems when the swash is in the level position.
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Post by jombo on Mar 25, 2012 0:54:14 GMT -4
i have mine on the belt version , the servo to arm balls facing out , but the ball going to the swash on the inside. i also found that with the belt version , i couldnt use the round servo wheel, i needed the 2 arm one . the same goes to the elevator servo . when i used the wheel on the servo , the links hit the wheel's .
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Post by ghostflyer1 on Mar 25, 2012 9:31:15 GMT -4
Here is how I have setup several of the Chaos 600E Aileron mechanics ... The balls go on the inside on the servo wheels. and the pics should clairify the rest ....
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Post by ghostflyer1 on Mar 25, 2012 9:32:32 GMT -4
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Post by ghostflyer1 on Mar 25, 2012 9:34:47 GMT -4
Now mine is setup for a BeastX so my balls are on the inner circle on the wheels Hope this helps
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Post by jombo on Mar 25, 2012 11:19:55 GMT -4
here is my belt 600 E
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Post by chipwich on Mar 25, 2012 14:42:38 GMT -4
Thanks for all of the replies. I've got the offset bellcranks, and with bobsp12's very thorough explanation, know how to orient the link balls. Great having this forum as a resource!
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