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Post by Valkman on Jan 26, 2013 12:09:40 GMT -4
Don't forget you will need a channel for gain adjustment. Would work though. Wind and rain here in Ireland boo hoo.
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Post by sgmason on Jan 26, 2013 13:50:49 GMT -4
Do I really need the gain? or could it just be set to HH and forgot? I am just asking because I only have a DX7s and the Rx in the plane is just a AR600. Being that i am running retracts and will be installing flaps next week (if my order comes in) that takes up all 6 channels on the Rx I could always steal the AR8000 from my 600 to get an extra channel, but I don't really want to do that. Or order the BW gyro and use that
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Post by Valkman on Jan 26, 2013 16:39:11 GMT -4
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Post by sgmason on Jan 27, 2013 0:35:41 GMT -4
Looks like I need the gain wire connected I do have another choice, I could pull the spektrum RX out and use the Copter_X labeled Turnigy gear I have. Once again not really something I want to do Guess I will just have to make do without gyros on my elevators and ailerons. I am planning on trying rolling takeoffs tomorrow if the weather holds. Guess I should get a camera charged up just in case
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Post by Valkman on Jan 27, 2013 8:55:04 GMT -4
The eagle three guardian on that link I gave seems the way to go.
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Post by sgmason on Jan 27, 2013 11:40:39 GMT -4
Yeah the Eagle3 would work, but I have the same dilemma that I have right now with a HH gyro. I am lacking a channel for the gain if I want to keep my retracts and flaps I have that spare wing sitting in a box right now so I will keep trying with the setup I have, but I have tucked that little bit of information away for when I am in a position to use it. Thanks Joe.
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Post by Valkman on Jan 27, 2013 11:49:18 GMT -4
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Post by Dr. Evil on Jan 27, 2013 12:49:05 GMT -4
LOL... after reading the whole conversation, I am just realizing you two are talking about a stabilizing unit! So I am guessing it's kinda like a 3 axis gyro for planes? Also, how important is it to have this in your model?
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Post by doc121 on Jan 27, 2013 13:31:39 GMT -4
That's exactly what it is Dr. Evil. The importance of flight stabilization in a plane is no more or less important than on a heli. It will help & the peace of mind gyros on planes makes can be the difference between a confident beginner & a bummed out beginner who gives up because he/she is tired of crashing. Of course gyros on planes will not prevent crashes, but they do help with stabilization.
I was reading somewhere that Orangerx now makes a 3 axis gyro for planes & that they are pretty cheap but work well.
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Post by sgmason on Jan 27, 2013 15:30:19 GMT -4
That's exactly what it is Dr. Evil. The importance of flight stabilization in a plane is no more or less important than on a heli. It will help & the peace of mind gyros on planes makes can be the difference between a confident beginner & a bummed out beginner who gives up because he/she is tired of crashing. Of course gyros on planes will not prevent crashes, but they do help with stabilization. I was reading somewhere that Orangerx now makes a 3 axis gyro for planes & that they are pretty cheap but work well. Well I went for a short flight today and did a rolling take off, about 1:30 later I was picking up parts Ice and frozen ground are not that forgiving I am not bummed out enough about the two destructive landings in a row that took out my wings to quit, but it is making me hang up the P-47 and start looking for a good trainer. I think I have figured out my problem and it is not CG or stabilization. It is that I want to fly slower than the P-47 can handle. I am flying right on the edge of stalling so any little mistake gets multiplied. I really don't think that adding a 3 axis gyro to the plane or flaps is going to correct that, but getting a trainer and more confidence should cure my problem. The total damage for today was that fore mentioned wing, both sides broken at the root, but I already had a replacement. The cowl is now in 1000 pieces instead of the glued back together 100 it was in. One broken motor mount and bent prop. I have a cowl on order already and the prop and motor mount total less the $10 to replace. The only other thing I would need to get it back to looking stock is the star and bar stickers for the wing, once again not that expensive, but not necessary to get it flying. In the next couple weeks I will be picking up a high wing trainer. I still want 4 channel, or the ability to add a 4th channel in the future. I also found out yesterday about a group of guys that fly the next town over, so I will be getting a hold of them once I get said trainer. No heli guys in the group, but maybe I can get a few hooked if I bring out the 600, or even better, if I get lucky enough to win the super scale. That would draw more than one person into helicopters for sure ;D
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Post by rcdude07 on Jan 27, 2013 16:27:05 GMT -4
You have now graduated from the school of hard knocks.
If staying with Speck gear the Apprentice is a great choice. Any J-3 Cub is excellent, a 172 model is another good choice. The Hobby Lobby Telemasters are also good. The FlyZone Switch will give you a high wing trainer and a low wing aerobatic 2nd plane. Sig Kadets and Rascals are another wonderful option.
I maidened Dr. Evil's ParKZone T-28 and it has good slow speed flight, but I wouldn't do sustained slow speed with it.
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Post by sgmason on Jan 27, 2013 17:44:52 GMT -4
What I am actually looking into is the hobby king grasshopper 1400mm epo. That way I will stay with my warbird theme, but get a high wing cub. I have also been looking at the Bixler 2, I need to look into it more still before I decide. One thing I know is that I want to stay with 3s or 4s power so I can limmit the different battery packs I need. I don't really like ordering outside North America, but the prices are lower even after shipping.
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Post by rcdude07 on Jan 27, 2013 18:10:53 GMT -4
What I am actually looking into is the hobby king grasshopper 1400mm epo. That way I will stay with my warbird theme, but get a high wing cub. I have also been looking at the Bixler 2, I need to look into it more still before I decide. One thing I know is that I want to stay with 3s or 4s power so I can limmit the different battery packs I need. I don't really like ordering outside North America, but the prices are lower even after shipping. Many guys at the club I fly at have bad experiences with the electronics from HK and other overseas based hobby shops. Many now are ordering the plane but removing stock electronics and replacing with brand name Hitec, Futaba, etc...
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Post by sgmason on Jan 27, 2013 21:55:42 GMT -4
That is part of the reason I don't like ordering from overseas, but if it came right down to it the electronics from my P-47 would swap over fairly easy. It is grounded till I get some stick time on a trainer now that I think I figured out my problem. The other things are the waiting and replacement parts. Even if I go EMS it still takes a couple of weeks for things to make it here, and that is once it is shipped. I still have to go over features, total cost, and inconvenience before I order anything. I should have my mind made up in 2-3 weeks, but I still have my brushless MCPx to play with in the mean time. I have the 600 too, but I really want to convert that to 8s and FBL before I take it out again. I would hate to see what I could do to that in a crash on ice or frozen ground . I could see it easily being a re-kit if I crashed it this time of year
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Post by osidak on Jan 27, 2013 22:07:39 GMT -4
sorry to hear of the unplanned landing - A trainer (would suggest a traditional high wing trainer) is a good way to go. Very simple straight forward setup and easy to work on/repair. The temptation is always to go with the cool looking scale plane but they almost always are harder to fly and land due to higher wing loadings ect. If you get one that uses two aileron servos you can set up a switch for flaperons as well which will help you slow down a bit more for landings while keeping initial setup simple.
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