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Post by sgmason on Jan 9, 2013 17:18:49 GMT -4
Well I got it all together, bound to the radio, and CG set, but while I was doing all that the wind came up and I don't want to maiden it in gusty winds Tomorrow afternoon is looking good for a maiden, half the wind and a bit cooler so it wont be wet snow I am landing/crashing into. I say Landing/crashing because I plan on hand launching and belly landing at first. after I get the retracts I will start working on rolling takeoffs and still belly land till I am comfortable with how I am coming in. Worst than it getting windy while I was doing my setup is that I left my good camera on and plugged into the computer yesterday after taking a couple of work related pictures. When it is connected to the computer it over rides the sleep function so the battery was drained I did snap a couple of crappy pictures with my cell phone to tie people over till I get he good camera charged again
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Post by Dr. Evil on Jan 9, 2013 17:58:59 GMT -4
Very nice George.
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Post by doc121 on Jan 9, 2013 21:09:17 GMT -4
I WANT ONE!!!!! ;D
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Post by doc121 on Jan 9, 2013 21:12:10 GMT -4
Hey, Dr. Evil, where's the flight vids of the T-28 ?
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Post by osidak on Jan 9, 2013 21:30:30 GMT -4
you will need to keep some speed on that when landing otherwise with that big "open" cowling it is going bleed speed very fast. Maybe mix in some flaperons to help keep it slow
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Post by Dr. Evil on Jan 9, 2013 22:18:50 GMT -4
Hey, Dr. Evil, where's the flight vids of the T-28 ? Sorry doc, i have to get better flying it first
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Post by rcdude07 on Jan 9, 2013 22:19:34 GMT -4
Dr. Evil can now say his T-28 has flown. Yeah man, thanks for helping me out setting all the trims up. Didn't think it was off till i had someone with experience taken a look over it. It sure flies alot better now. Thanks Dr. Evil, after your experienced today, do you understand why I have said what I have on the forums? You may want to consider hand launching if ROG still scare you. Just glad I caught the reversed ailerons before you tried, I've seen countless FAST on a fresh battery. Looks great on low high speed passes with gear up.. It needed a lot of down trim, no aileron trim. The only problem was the landing gears came off on first landing. They put 2 little drops of glue on a painted surface to hold plastic pieces in place, not a good idea. I may leave the gear off, it flies better and looks better without them. I've seen countless crashes due to reversed ailerons that would have been caught with a proper ground check. After flying you FMS T-28 I know once you get the throws down, this ain't a 3d bird, you'll learn quick. I like the slow speed handling and the non-nasty stall characteristics it has. As you saw with me at the sticks it flies well and offers growth into an intermediate skill set.
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Post by rcdude07 on Jan 9, 2013 22:22:53 GMT -4
Well I got it all together, bound to the radio, and CG set, but while I was doing all that the wind came up and I don't want to maiden it in gusty winds Tomorrow afternoon is looking good for a maiden, half the wind and a bit cooler so it wont be wet snow I am landing/crashing into. I say Landing/crashing because I plan on hand launching and belly landing at first. after I get the retracts I will start working on rolling takeoffs and still belly land till I am comfortable with how I am coming in. Worst than it getting windy while I was doing my setup is that I left my good camera on and plugged into the computer yesterday after taking a couple of work related pictures. When it is connected to the computer it over rides the sleep function so the battery was drained I did snap a couple of crappy pictures with my cell phone to tie people over till I get he good camera charged again Good luck........ On the maiden be sure to go 3 mistakes high and stall the plane. Learn it's slow speed characteristics when you have room to recover. Don't be surprised if it snaps over on the left wing tip since it's a warbird.
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Post by Dr. Evil on Jan 9, 2013 22:26:12 GMT -4
Yeah man, thanks for helping me out setting all the trims up. Didn't think it was off till i had someone with experience taken a look over it. It sure flies alot better now. Thanks Dr. Evil, after your experienced today, do you understand why I have said what I have on the forums? You may want to consider hand launching if ROG still scare you. Just glad I caught the reversed ailerons before you tried, I've seen countless FAST on a fresh battery. Looks great on low high speed passes with gear up.. It needed a lot of down trim, no aileron trim. The only problem was the landing gears came off on first landing. They put 2 little drops of glue on a painted surface to hold plastic pieces in place, not a good idea. I may leave the gear off, it flies better and looks better without them. I've seen countless crashes due to reversed ailerons that would have been caught with a proper ground check. After flying you FMS T-28 I know once you get the throws down, this ain't a 3d bird, you'll learn quick. I like the slow speed handling and the non-nasty stall characteristics it has. As you saw with me at the sticks it flies well and offers growth into an intermediate skill set. Oh yeah, for sure. I am just glad its all setup correctly now...thanks again. Btw, it's ParkZone...my Corsair is a fms.
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Post by Valkman on Jan 10, 2013 5:09:40 GMT -4
Best of luck George. Im looking forward to the maidon.
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Post by Dr. Evil on Jan 10, 2013 10:11:51 GMT -4
Best of luck George. Im looking forward to the maidon. +1.....btw, I like the snowman by the window there...LOL.
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Post by sgmason on Jan 10, 2013 10:27:59 GMT -4
The Christmas decorations are all still up I will be taking them down this weekend. Joe, I am not sure if I will be recording the maiden of this one, my homemade hat cam is on the fritz right now and to carry the DSLR out to where I am going to maiden it just seems like too much hassle for the limited view. I have to mount it stationary on a tripod, with the helicopter it was easy because I had only planned on hovering. Even though some people can hover a plane, I doubt that it can be done with a stock warbird, and it is way out of my skill level if it was possible If I can get the hat cam usable again I will try record the first flight attempt. My goal for a maiden is to get it in the air, trim it out, do a couple of circuits and land with it all in one piece. I want to check the CG one more time before I head out this afternoon, I ended up putting 75g of weight in the nose to get it balanced yesterday and to me that seems like a lot, 6% of the stock weight. For the record I used flat washers, servo tape and duct tape to hold them inside the cowl, so they could easily be removed if needed.
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Post by Dr. Evil on Jan 10, 2013 10:50:31 GMT -4
I am excited for ya G! Have fun today
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Post by sgmason on Jan 10, 2013 14:03:30 GMT -4
Well, Just got back from the maiden flight of the P-47. It wasn't long and wasn't pretty, but it came back in one piece ;D I played with the CG a bit and ended up taking 10 grams out of it. It balances perfect on what I understand is the CG mark going by the picture in the manual, but I could be misunderstanding the written part of the instructions From the manual: I take that, and the picture looks like, where the wing starts to flare out of the fuselage, but if it means from the point that the wing actually becomes an air foil, that is about 10mm further back. Feel free to pipe in and give advise . Back to the maiden, no I didn't record it, but it consisted of two hand launches and belly landings. First one I brought up the throttle and tossed it into the air at about 2°. The wind couldn't make up its mind what direction it was blowing so about 20' out it banked hard left in a gust. It was easily corrected and I climbed and slowly did a banked turn to the left. I did a couple of circuits, complete with up and down, side to side wobbles, and over corrections. About what you would expect from a plank noob. With hands shaking I turned back into the wind and started my decent for the first belly landing. Wasn't much wind on this landing and it basically just floated down and about 1' from the ground I flared and cut throttle. The plane lightly touched down and left a little trail in the snow as it slid up a bank then slid back down, absolutely no drama. I was happy it decided to save me about 10' of walking by sliding back down the bank The next flight after my hands stopped shaking was pretty much the same thing, but no sudden bank to the left thanks to a wind gust. The only difference was the landing. The wind direction had shifted so I wasn't able to put it down on the same bank, the banks are from the sand traps in the golf course. Instead I had to fly towards the road. I was a good 100 yards from the road so I thought i had lots of room. About 10' from the ground a good sustained gust came up, and wouldn't let the bird come down I had switch to low rates and even at full down stick the plane stayed level. There was no traffic, but I still didn't want to land on the road, just because of the amount of time it would take me to get to the plane, so I just cut the throttle and let it come down on its own. This landing wasn't as pretty as the first, but it did bury itself in the snow about 5' feet from the road because of the lack of a flare and the up hill landing. I did take pictures of the final resting place for the second landing because I thought it was funny ;D And this is how I decided to store my P-47 The slings are made from memory foam and duct tape, and are 1.5" wide to protect the foam. The landing gear was in my pocket for the maiden flight, the snow was too soft to use them. So there it is, I was nervous with all the naysayers saying how a warbird was not the way to go for a noob, but the PZ P-47 is a very forgiving plane. I stalled it on purpose and it was easy to get out of it with some throttle and a touch of stick movement to get level once airspeed had been recovered. Its floaty as all get out in my opinion. Or it could just be that I am a natural plank flier and the rules of noobs don't apply to me , but I don't think so .
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Post by Valkman on Jan 10, 2013 15:17:54 GMT -4
Good man George well done i enjoyed reading that. The pics in the snow looks like a war bird that was just discovered by melting snow!
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