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Post by 3f pilot on Jan 8, 2012 2:52:09 GMT -4
OMG I am probably having a tard moment right now. I have just been mising what I am looking for but setting up the servos and head everything has nice 90 deg angles.. ...the only problem is that up stick the swash goes down and down stick the swash goes up. Other than that fwd is fwd, back is back. left is left, right is right. Loking at this for hours and I dont get it. Reversing the servos only messes up the mix and if I reverse the swash mix it is messed up as well. I cnnot see how a mix would do it. I need to step back and seek some help here. I have the Aurora 9 which I find one of the coolest radios i have ever worked with. This thing rocks. Any help, appreciated before the rest of my hair falls out.
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Post by ausheli on Jan 8, 2012 4:55:47 GMT -4
Have you tried reversing all three servos ? Then you may have to change the swash setting as well . May work, I had to do a similar thing once.
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Post by chumley on Jan 8, 2012 21:03:38 GMT -4
Go to your SwashMix menu and reverse the direction of the collective with the "Rev" icon (page 127 of your manual)
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Post by 3f pilot on Jan 9, 2012 10:00:58 GMT -4
Thanks
Ill try both but I think I already tried those. I recheck. I put it aside and worked on the tail this weekend. There was a nasty binding going on but it is smooth now. This is easy enough you get stuck on one thing you can just move on to another. ... or another bird all together.
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Post by 3f pilot on Jan 9, 2012 12:09:13 GMT -4
I see people who post these settings but how do you go negative in these menus, esp on the Aurora 9??? Mine only goes to 0.
Go into "Swash Mix Menu" I have mine at Aile + 60 deg Elev - 60 deg PIT + 60 deg
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Post by Dr. Evil on Jan 9, 2012 14:09:53 GMT -4
I see people who post these settings but how do you go negative in these menus, esp on the Aurora 9??? Mine only goes to 0. Go into "Swash Mix Menu" I have mine at Aile + 60 deg Elev - 60 deg PIT + 60 deg I don't think you can (atleast not on a Aurora 9 b/c I have one too). Are you sure those numbers are from a "swash mix" manual and not maybe a "expo" instead?
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Post by 3f pilot on Jan 9, 2012 14:52:39 GMT -4
Dr Evil: Thanks. Sweet... someone else with an A9. I did a search the other day about the issue and came across "The Calling all 600 Owners Forum" where you post as well. That is where I found it. I'll stick to the lounge for posting better help. www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1422837&page=120 , last two postings on the page. Its the same issue, just struck me as odd that they could be set to negative. I did not see a follow up from garret if he figured it out. It could be Expo. I have just seen a few other postings refering to the use of negative numbers. Didnt make sense to me.
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Post by Dr. Evil on Jan 9, 2012 15:25:05 GMT -4
Yeah, I just read it over again myself and didn't understand where you can do that...well again...atleast not on our Aurora...so I am not sure. I think somewhere in there the servos are rev. and needs to be corrected before setting up the swash mix cause if something in the very begining is not set up right, everything else you are trying to do after will not work correctly. As I am going through that same thing with my 450s, I was being lazy and just copied over all the settings from my 600...well I thought to myself "all I need to do is tweek it a bit and everything will fall into place"....oh how wrong I was on that theory cause it screwed up basically everything as only some of the function works but others were just totally not responding.
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Post by allspunup on Jan 9, 2012 21:21:07 GMT -4
Not sure as I fly a jr9303 but if when you move the pitch up and down all 3 are reversed its definatley the pitch "channel" Im not sure if you figured it out or not but look were your servo reversing is and see if there is a pitch reversing option....Like stated prior on the spektrum, jr, futaba you would change this error in the swash menu (-60 to +60).....
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Post by chumley on Jan 11, 2012 15:50:12 GMT -4
Did you figure out your swash issue?
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Post by 3f pilot on Jan 11, 2012 16:44:47 GMT -4
Chumley: Never did. I am working on redoing the setup. Also when it moves up or down or down is up and up is down the elev doesnt stay at the same rate as the pit and air servos. Mid sitck all is level but full up the elev is higher and at low stick the elev is lower almost like the arm is too long or some rate issue. I have no rate mixing.
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Post by Dr. Evil on Jan 11, 2012 16:50:07 GMT -4
Chumley: Never did. I am working on redoing the setup. Also when it moves up or down or down is up and up is down the elev doesnt stay at the same rate as the pit and air servos. Mid sitck all is level but full up the elev is higher and at low stick the elev is lower almost like the arm is too long or some rate issue. I have no rate mixing. Actually thats an easy fix...I had the same issue awhile back. To get it all traveling equally, you'll need to adjust your endpoint on the TX. As far as the backward issue, I am still thinking the servos need to be reversed.
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Post by 3f pilot on Jan 11, 2012 21:01:05 GMT -4
Oh yeah EPA settings will do that. Thanks.. Yeah I still dont know about the up/down. All the servos go in the correct direction. I am talking servos here looking from the tail forward: Left is Pitch down. aire up. Right is Pitch up aire down. Fwd is Elev up, Ptich and aire slightly down. Back is Elev down, pitch and aire slightly up. It is all there but the up down of the swash. Totally backwards. I did go into the Throttle curve and changed the pitch to be reverse. The Throttle curve goes from lower left to upper right and the elev goes uper left to lower right now with oppisite points 100/0 50/50 0/100 the only issue is that the throttle doesnt kick in until about 32%. Strange
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Post by chumley on Jan 11, 2012 22:04:47 GMT -4
It sounds to me like you have it mostly set up right. Some helis use swash down for positive pitch and some use swash up for positive pitch. Simply use the "rev" icon on your swashmix menu to make it work correct for your heli.
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Post by chumley on Jan 11, 2012 22:10:53 GMT -4
As far as your throttle issue - is this a nitro or electric heli? If electric, you might just need to "teach" your esc what its looking for out of the throttle channel.
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